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    Eaglemoss Military Watches Collection.

    Mwc 7 - 1960s Australian Naval Diver.

    From the 1960s The Royal Australian Navy, RAN, Issued it’s specialist clearance diving team, CDT, with watches that were commercials available from the company DROZ. They were purchased in small batches and there are at least three different models, they are very sought after and command high prices on the collector market. The model depicted by the MWC watch is most likely a DROZ SuperCompressor.




    Case
    Polished 42mm case, 45mm with crown, 48.5mm lug to lug, 10mm deep.
    Case back engraved with description of the watch. 35.5mm flat glass.
    Dial
    Black dial with white minute markers on the outside ring, Arabic numerals at 15-30-45, and Sand coloured Hour marks on the inside ring Arabic numerals at 12-3-6-9
    Chrome and White sharply tapered hours and minute hands, thin straight chrome seconds hand.
    Lume on minute and hour hands only.
    Strap
    22mm Sand coloured nylon, polished Buckle, aprox 180-225mm fitting



    A couple of strap changes, leather and ZULU


    The outer ring on the DROZ dive watches would have been an independently rotating bezel positioned under the glass, and had exactly the same function as the external bezels on more typical divers watches, it would have been adjusted and locked in place by the upper crown.




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    Eaglemoss Military Watches Collection.

    Special edition 1 - 1913 British Navy Pilot

    Every three months a Special edition watch is offered by Eaglemoss as a supplement to the collection.
    The first of these is a 1910 style Pocket Watch to mark the ‘birth’ of the RAF during the First World War. It's evolution from the airborne unit of the Royal engineers, into the Royal Flying Corps, then encouraged by Winston Churchill, the then First Lord of the Admiralty, the separate Royal Naval Air Service. And finally the merging of the RFC and RNAS into the RAF on 1st April 1918.

    Case

    Polished 47mm case with moulded, non functional winding crown detail. 57mm with top 'crown', 11.7mm deep. 3mm semi recessed working crown at 3 o'clock
    Polished finish case back engraved with "1913 British Navy Pilot". 41.5mm domed acrylic 'glass'.
    Dial
    Black dial with white minute/seconds markers on the outside ring. Green vintage style Arabic hour numerals.
    Small working seconds subdial at 6 o'clock position with chromed accent ring.
    Chromed vintage style hours and minutes hands with lume inside the lozenge tips and stylised points. Small chromed sub seconds hand.
    Movement is a Sunon PL45 with seconds hand at 6 o'clock, Please note the movement in this watch is no larger than the standard Epson AL55 usually found in the MWC collection.
    Strap

    300mm polished white metal chain with spring clip and hook clip at each end.



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    Eaglemoss Military Watches Collection.

    Issue 8 - 1950s British Army (British Soldier)

    In the early 1940s the British Ministry of Defence drew up new specifications for a replacement for the British Army Trade Pattern watch (ATP), the new watch would be called the Waterproof Wrist Watch or WWW.

    12 Swiss manufacturers supplied these watches including Longines, Omega, IWC and Jeager Le Coultre.
    There were such large numbers purchased that they continued to be issued from 1945 right through until the early 1990s



    Case
    Polished 37mm, 39.5mm with crown, 44.4mm lug to lug, 8.4mm deep.
    Case back engraved with "1950s British Army". 31mm flat glass.
    Dial
    Black dial with white minute markers and biege Hour marks on the outside ring, White arabic Numerals.
    Printed on, non functional seconds dial and hand at 6 o'clock
    Chrome and White straight hours and minutes hands with triangular point.
    Lume on minute and hour hands only.
    Strap
    Strap
    18mm black PU leather strap, polished Buckle, aprox 175-220mm fitting



    NB:The inclusion of both the centre sweep hand and fake seconds dial caused a huge backlash against the whole collection, For subscribers the watch was packaged along with the RNAS pocket watch, which actually featured a functioning sub dial using a similarly sized movement, so the inclusion of a working sub dial would not have been difficult to achieve.

    Eaglemoss made statements assuring that no further fake dials would be produced. which has been the case to date but the reputation of the collection has suffered.

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    Eaglemoss Military Watches Collection.

    Issue 9 - 1940s Japanese Airman

    Produced for the Japanese Imperial Navy by the Seikosha watch company, originals are extremely rare and command high prices particularly in the Japanese market.
    Japanese pilots where the elite, and the training programme rigorous and often brutal, the numbers of pilots that qualified could not keep up with the losses they suffered.




    Case
    48.1mm plated and polished finish. folded detail finish around bezel. 501mm including crown, 546mm lug to lug, 9.4mm deep. 43.6mm interior aperture.
    6mm grooved crown. 41.5mm flat glass.
    case back engraved with “1940s Japanese Pilot".
    Dial
    43mm black painted dial with red seconds markers and white Arabic numbers at 5 sec/min intervals on the outside ring.
    On a smaller secondary scale white markers and Yellow and White vintage style Arabic hour numerals on the inner ring
    White vintage style hours and minutes hands with Breguet Pomme style point. Straight white seconds hand.
    There is no luminous effect anywhere on this watch.
    Standard EM Epson AL55a movement.
    Strap
    24mm dark tan leather, tapers slightly to a 22mm polished buckle, aprox 180-220mm fitting, note the watch lugs are small and flat on a large case, so measurements will be inaccurate on smaller size wrists.
    Originally these watches were made to be worn over a thick flight suit and came on a leather strap that could wrap around a bare wrist twice over.



    Side by side with the Issue 2 German Luftwaffe watch. From the same era, and intended for the same function, the two are very similar in design and both have the B-Uhr, type-B style dial. The Japanese watch is slightly bigger overall.

    The Seikosha watch has refined the German design and given it a distinctly Japanese quality. A number of companies produce high quality reproduction versions of this watch type.


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    Issue 10 - 1960s British RAF/Army.

    The issue depicts the classic British military watch, the Smith W10. The W10 was an evolution of an earlier Smith watch, and many collectors believe it borrowed heavily from the the Swiss made Jeager LeCoultre movement, a former LeCoultre employee was employed by Smith as technical director.




    Case.
    39mm brushed finish with polished bezel, 41.2mm with crown, 50.6mm lug to lug, 9.4mm deep.
    Case back engraved with "1960s British RAF". 33.3mm flat glass.
    Dial.
    Black dial with white seconds/minutes markers and green accents at hour points on the outside ring.
    White Arabic hour numerals with a green triangle at 12o'clock, white triangle logo on lower quarter of dial.
    Pencil type chromed hours and minutes hands with lume on full length and triangular point. Straight white seconds hand.
    Strap.
    20mm khaki nylon strap, polished Buckle, aprox 180-220mm fitting.



    NB: This may be peculiar to my example but the holes for the spring bars are at the mid point of the lugs making it quite a tight fit for even a moderately thin strap, the striped NATO in the picture below, for example, just fits.

    I have also included a side by side with to earlier issue 8 watch and the subscriber RAF watch for comparison.



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    That is very sweet!-

    "Either He's Dead, Or My Watch Has Stopped....."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokie View Post
    That is very sweet!-

    I have one of these Nokie. .I'll gladly send it to you if you want it..?

    Sent from my GT-I9505

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    Issue 11 - 1950s French Foreign Legion

    After the Second World War Germany was required to make war reparations to France. As part of this the German firm of Stowa produced two runs of watches, some of which were used by the French Foreign Legion. Including their Paratroopers. I asume that this watch is a replica of those Stowa watches.




    Case
    Polished 34.7mm rounded bezel, 6.1mm with crown, 39.5mm lug to lug, 8.1mm deep.
    Case back engraved with "1950s French Foreign Legion". 28.5mm flat glass.
    NB: The lugs are quite short and the spring bars appear to have been intentionally bent to allow fitting of the strap. This can only be attributed to very poor design specification by Eaglemoss.
    Dial
    Black dial with white minute markers including small Arabic numerals at 5 minute intervals. White Arabic hour numerals
    Chrome, White filled, tapered hours and minutes hands. Slim straight red seconds hand.Lume on minute and hour hands only.
    Strap
    18mm grey coloured, nylon strap, polished Buckle, aprox 170-215mm fitting



    Size comparison with issues 8 British RAF and 10 British Army




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    Eaglemoss Military Watches Collection.

    Issue 12 - 1940s British Paratrooper

    The Watch described in this issue seems to be very rare. The British Army needed a water and shock resistant watch, so they had a batch of Longines movements from stock put into custom cases, The new cases were nicknamed ’Tuna Cans”, larger, and designed to be more shock resistant, they also had a screw down crown to aid water resistance. It was only issued in small numbers and later recalled due to the old Luminous paint decaying into powder and fouling the movement.




    Case
    Sandblast finish "tuna can" case 36.4mm, 37.6mm with crown, 43.5mm lug to lug, 10mm deep.
    Case back engraved with description of the watch. 29.8mm flat glass.
    Dial
    White dial with Black minute scale at outer edge, including small luminous green marks at 5 minute intervals. Black Arabic hour numerals 1 to 12 with an inner ring of Red hour marks to indicating 24 hour scale
    Chrome, White filled, hours and minutes hands triangular point. Slim straight chrome seconds hand. Lume on minute and hour hands only.
    Strap
    18mm brown leather strap, tapers to polished 16 mm Buckle, aprox 175-215mm fitting





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    Issue 13 - 1960s German Naval Commando

    This watch is based on the classic Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. One of the worlds best regarded deep sea watches. Various models of the fifty fathoms were issued to the West German Bundeswehr Kampfschwimmers (German Navy Combat divers) from the late sixties right through to the mid eighties. The MWC version looks like a mix of several models from the period.




    Case
    Polished finish 40mm, 41.5mm with crown, 45.2mm lug to lug, 10.7mm deep.
    Case back engraved with "1960s German Naval Commander" note the description is incorrectly spelled as "Commander" not "Commando". 31.5mm flat glass.
    Non rotating 40.6mm bezel. Black inlay with silver coloured minute and metallic green 5 minute markers.
    Dial
    Black dial with White minute marker ring. Green embossed kite shape indicator mark at 12, rectangles at quarter hour and circles at intermediate 5 minute intervals. There is some lume on the hour markers but very minimal brightness.
    Green filled, straight, hours and minutes hands with triangular point. Slim straight chrome seconds hand with green arrow tip. Lume on minute and hour hands and seconds hand tip.
    Strap
    20mm black nylon strap, polished buckle, aprox 180-225mm fitting.


    Note: The case form and strap are identical to the issue 6 French Seaman, below is comparison picture and another with issue 3 British SBS included.




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