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    Cigars

    Anyone into them? I just started smoking them and now I want a nicer cutter, lighter, pouch, humidor etc etc. Fun!
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    going to have to play devils advocate here ..

    cigars are no safer then cigarettes really as even these hold nicotine which is addictive plus other substance .. some where I read they say five cigars is like the same as a pack of fags so bit of a mythe really that they are healthier alternative then fags ,

    now saying that when I did smoke I use to treat my self to some coffee creams in a tin they was more a cigarillo thou

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    I've read that tosh before - of course they're safer - you don't inhale!! And only one every few days.
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    course you in hale how else do you get the hit of nicotine

    Key Facts About Cigar Smoking

    • One cigar may contain as much tobacco as an entire pack of cigarettes. ...
    • Cigars are addictive. ...
    • Cigar smoke is more concentrated and toxic than cigarette smoke. ...
    • Smoking as little as one cigar a day increases the risk for cancer. ...


    https://www.verywellmind.com/what-ar...moking-2824740


    and if safer why do they still have signs on the cigar tins smoking kills ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by is that my watch View Post
    course you in hale how else do you get the hit of nicotine

    Key Facts About Cigar Smoking

    • One cigar may contain as much tobacco as an entire pack of cigarettes. ...
    • Cigars are addictive. ...
    • Cigar smoke is more concentrated and toxic than cigarette smoke. ...
    • Smoking as little as one cigar a day increases the risk for cancer. ...


    https://www.verywellmind.com/what-ar...moking-2824740


    and if safer why do they still have signs on the cigar tins smoking kills ?
    The ones I just bought didn't
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    Took ages to fumigate Roland's supplied watch strap, still lingers in the box

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffbot View Post
    The ones I just bought didn't
    depends where from thou as the coffee creme have to have it but depend if foreign then maybe where they come from they don't have to do that ?
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    my last take on it , just thought it needed to be said as with every thing in life their is risk if you go in knowing it.. so be it .....



    Background


    The 2009 Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (FSPTCA) provided the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) with regulatory authority over the manufacture, distribution, and marketing of cigarettes, roll-your-own tobacco, and smokeless tobacco. In April 2014, the FDA issued a proposed rule to assert jurisdiction over additional tobacco products, including cigars which are a growing public health concern ]. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has reported that from 2000 to 2011, cigar consumption more than doubled in the US from slightly less than 6.2 billion sticks in 2000 to more than 13.7 billion in 2011. Cigarette consumption, on the other hand, declined by 33% in the US during this period. In the US, the current cigar product landscape varies widely with respect to flavors, pack sizes, brands and cigar types (e.g., large cigars, cigarillos, and little filtered cigars) . Cigar use among youth and young adults has been of particular concern in recent years. Nearly 16% of US young adults ages 18 to 24 years reported having smoked cigars on at least one day in the past 30 days in 2009–2010 . Nationally, 2.8% of middle school students and 12.6% of high school students reported having smoked cigars (either cigars, cigarillos or little cigars) on at least one day in the past 30 days . In the same study, cigar smoking prevalence significantly increased from 2011 to 2012 in non-Hispanic Black high school students from 11.7% to 16.7%.

    Cigar smoking produces numerous adverse health effects. Cigar smoke contains many of the same toxic constituents as cigarette smoke, and cigar smoke has been shown to have higher levels of tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) than cigarette smoke due to the curing and fermentation process for cigar tobacco . Many of these TSNAs such as N-Nitrosonornicotine (NNN) and nicotine-derived nitrosamine ketone (NNK) are known carcinogens . Cigar smoke has also been found to have higher levels of carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxide than cigarette smoke . The International Agency of Research on Cancer (IARC) has previously concluded in 2004 that cigar and/or pipe smoking is causally connected to cancers of the lung and upper aerodigestive tract, including the oral cavity, oropharynx, hypopharynx, larynx and esophagus. They also found evidence that cigar and/or pipe smoking are causally associated with cancers of the pancreas, stomach and urinary bladder . A recent analysis of the population health effects of cigar smoking found that regular cigar smoking is responsible for at least 9,000 deaths each year in the US and that the total number of deaths may be higher due to potential increases in cigar smoking relative risks over time, perhaps due to more diverse cigar products and changes in inhalation patterns, as well as the possibility of deaths due to other causes that have not been previously linked to cigar smoking .

    Given the public health and regulatory importance of cigars, it is extremely timely and important to have accurate and comprehensive information on the health effects of these products. This study presents a systematic review of published studies on current cigar smoking and all-cause and cause-specific mortality risks. In doing so, it synthesizes the information currently available on the subject and identifies areas for further research.


    Conclusions

    In summary, cigar smoking carries many of the same health risks as cigarette smoking. Mortality risks from cigar smoking vary by level of exposure as measured by cigars per day and inhalation level and can be as high as or exceed those of cigarette smoking. The body of evidence would be strengthened by future studies that focus on the health effects of primary cigar smoking and incorporate more contemporary and diverse study populations to better reflect the current patterns of cigar use in the US. Ideally, these studies would also collect detailed information on cigar type, exposure level, and biomarkers of exposure and potential harm.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4408600/
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    Used to smoke them all the time, and despite still loving the smell of cigars, I don’t anymore.
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    remember talking to peter about lighter some where on here it seems I gave away all the best one and keep all the not so good ones as in giving way the zippo's and keeping the kingsmill king some thing any way but I did hold on to a ronsons vintage effect one which was kinda funky wonder if I can find it ...it had it's own flame snuffer on it so when you pulled the one part a cap came over the flame and snuffed it out
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