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Dec 9, 2018, 10:51 AM
#2001
Originally Posted by
crownpuller
Sounds like a decent album title.
Or, just The Plastic Straws as a band name.
I'm reminded of this, which is timely, as it is an excellent Sunday morning album.
It is now my duty to completely drain you.
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Dec 10, 2018, 02:27 PM
#2002
Originally Posted by
boatme99
Boy, it seems that someone opened the gate at the nut house in time for Christmas this year! Teachers telling wee bairns there's no Santa, teachers saying candy canes are too religious to be allowed, Rudolph and Charley Brown are racist misogynist bullies, teachers saying red and green are verboten for some injustice only they can percieve, and people *****ing about Christmas music because it has religious significance!
Where will it all end!
Some of that is ridiculous. Rudolph the red nosed reindeer is allegorically anti-racism, Charlie Brown creator Charles Schulz demanded a black character be added to Peanuts after receiving a letter from a teacher post-MLK assassination. To be fair, though, there is no Santa, and much of Christmas music is religious and it can be alienating. When I was a boy, I had to get in front of the whole ****ing school and parents and sing shit like “Joy to the World” in school. That song is about Jesus—those weren’t my beliefs then and they aren’t my beliefs now. And it was alienating to me and the large number of Jewish children in my class. And I had to do it. My parents didn’t want to make a stink about it else I be treated as more other than I already was, and as an elementary school kid, I didn’t know better enough to stand up and say I didn’t want to sing it. And even though there’s Christmas music that isn’t overtly religious, and even though I do celebrate Christmas as a secular, commercial holiday now as an adult, I really don’t think we should be pushing religious music in schools.
Candy canes are fine though.
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Dec 10, 2018, 03:19 PM
#2003
Originally Posted by
Raza
Some of that is ridiculous. Rudolph the red nosed reindeer is allegorically anti-racism, Charlie Brown creator Charles Schulz demanded a black character be added to Peanuts after receiving a letter from a teacher post-MLK assassination. To be fair, though, there is no Santa, and much of Christmas music is religious and it can be alienating. When I was a boy, I had to get in front of the whole ****ing school and parents and sing shit like “Joy to the World” in school. That song is about Jesus—those weren’t my beliefs then and they aren’t my beliefs now. And it was alienating to me and the large number of Jewish children in my class. And I had to do it. My parents didn’t want to make a stink about it else I be treated as more other than I already was, and as an elementary school kid, I didn’t know better enough to stand up and say I didn’t want to sing it. And even though there’s Christmas music that isn’t overtly religious, and even though I do celebrate Christmas as a secular, commercial holiday now as an adult, I really don’t think we should be pushing religious music in schools.
Candy canes are fine though.
a good rendition of 'White Christmas' should do the trick if that isn't considered racist
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Dec 10, 2018, 06:21 PM
#2004
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Dec 11, 2018, 01:49 AM
#2005
Originally Posted by
Raza
Some of that is ridiculous. Rudolph the red nosed reindeer is allegorically anti-racism, Charlie Brown creator Charles Schulz demanded a black character be added to Peanuts after receiving a letter from a teacher post-MLK assassination. To be fair, though, there is no Santa, and much of Christmas music is religious and it can be alienating. When I was a boy, I had to get in front of the whole ****ing school and parents and sing shit like “Joy to the World” in school. That song is about Jesus—those weren’t my beliefs then and they aren’t my beliefs now. And it was alienating to me and the large number of Jewish children in my class. And I had to do it. My parents didn’t want to make a stink about it else I be treated as more other than I already was, and as an elementary school kid, I didn’t know better enough to stand up and say I didn’t want to sing it. And even though there’s Christmas music that isn’t overtly religious, and even though I do celebrate Christmas as a secular, commercial holiday now as an adult, I really don’t think we should be pushing religious music in schools.
Candy canes are fine though.
Santa might not be real, but faith is. There are a lot of Santas out there, they go by many names.
It is now my duty to completely drain you.
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Dec 11, 2018, 08:28 AM
#2006
Hey Raza, sorry, I might not have been clear about the music. I didn't mean in school, I meant on the radio or in stores. In public.
I'm not a Christian either but it's part of the season and I have no problem hearing most of it for a few weeks.
Except that crappy rock or insipid country Christmas music!
Oh, and that Little Drummer Boy. Sometimes I wish he'd have just fallen down a well on his way to the manger.
Think I'll crank up choral Christmas music this morning!
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Dec 11, 2018, 12:45 PM
#2007
Originally Posted by
boatme99
Hey Raza, sorry, I might not have been clear about the music. I didn't mean in school, I meant on the radio or in stores. In public.
I'm not a Christian either but it's part of the season and I have no problem hearing most of it for a few weeks.
Except that crappy rock or insipid country Christmas music!
Oh, and that Little Drummer Boy. Sometimes I wish he'd have just fallen down a well on his way to the manger.
Think I'll crank up choral Christmas music this morning!
Yeah, if stores and malls and stuff want to play Christmas music, they should go right ahead. I ventured to the market yesterday and was very surprised to find that it wasn’t playing Christmas music. But, I also did my grocery shopping in one of the most hipster neighborhoods in the city, so that might explain it.
I actually don’t mind Little Drummer Boy too much, if I’m honest. Not my favorite, but it’s not so bad.
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Dec 11, 2018, 04:58 PM
#2008
Anyone that doesn't enjoy the muppets rendition of Merry Christmas Baby has no soul.
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Dec 15, 2018, 02:15 AM
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Dec 15, 2018, 02:01 PM
#2010
Originally Posted by
CanadianStraps
Anyone that doesn't enjoy the muppets rendition of Merry Christmas Baby has no soul.
Don't think I've heard that one, actually.