Pocket watch question

[is that my watch]

no reason why it should - although it tends to be associated with Germany for obvious reasons - the expression is also common to Russia along with the use of' Motherland' -in fact the most prestigious Russian award one can attain is 'for Service to the Fatherland ' - the use is governed i think more by its connection with politic and government as against the land of one's birth or 'Homeland 'as was adopted by the USA in more recent times

I always thought the fatherland was based on.

''Fatherland'' is actually a reference to German Fatherland political party, which lasted from 1917 to 1933

were ..

Mother Russia is a national personification of Russia, appearing in patriotic posters, statues etc. In the Soviet period, the term Mother Motherland was preferred, as representing the multi-ethnic Soviet Union.

still, there is a clear similarity between the pre-1917 Mother Russia and the Soviet figure, especially as depicted during and in the aftermath of the Eastern Front of the Second World War.

lol

[shameless]

I always thought the fatherland was based on.

''Fatherland'' is actually a reference to German Fatherland political party, which lasted from 1917 to 1933



were ..

Mother Russia is a national personification of Russia, appearing in patriotic posters, statues etc. In the Soviet period, the term Mother Motherland was preferred, as representing the multi-ethnic Soviet Union.

still, there is a clear similarity between the pre-1917 Mother Russia and the Soviet figure, especially as depicted during and in the aftermath of the Eastern Front of the Second World War.

lol

i believe that is not the case -it is a common expression used across the board by very many nationalities -and is only associated as a German only 'thing' because of its over use by them for propaganda purposes - it had use a century before the First World War

[RayMac]

If you can get a look at the movement, a Molnija should have a date like say 2-55 (2nd quarter 1955.) The 15J stuff was made into the 60s for sure - long after the Swiss makers went to 17J.

[is that my watch]

maybe officer edition ?

[tribe125]

Could be. I'm tempted to polish the front cover to see if I can work up a bit of a shine - but better not, since it's not actually my watch...

[is that my watch]

Could be. I'm tempted to polish the front cover to see if I can work up a bit of a shine - but better not, since it's not actually my watch...

what's he asking for it ?

[tribe125]

what's he asking for it ?

I think he originally had it priced up for £90 but sold it for £60. He knows he can't sell it broken, so is wondering whether to get it fixed or write off the loss. He's balancing up the likely costs. I'm not interested in it myself.

[Der Amf]

I don't know the first thing about these watches, but my gut instinct looking at it is that it is designed to appeal to a Western purchaser.

Don't know if that's a remotely useful thing to say, so feel free to ignore

[tribe125]

I don't know the first thing about these watches, but my gut instinct looking at it is that it is designed to appeal to a Western purchaser.

It's hard to know with Russian watches, isn't it? I assumed it was a tourist trap watch until I saw the inscription and couldn't find another like it. I found plenty that were clearly novelties intended for either internal or external markets, but so far this one is looking as though it could be different.

I was also once surprised to learn that some Russian watches that looked like tat had been presented to troops.

[shameless]

It's hard to know with Russian watches, isn't it? I assumed it was a tourist trap watch until I saw the inscription and couldn't find another like it. I found plenty that were clearly novelties intended for either internal or external markets, but so far this one is looking as though it could be different.

I was also once surprised to learn that some Russian watches that looked like tat had been presented to troops.

probably not so surprising when one numbers the Russian military in millions, that the quality of production might not be way up there -the Vostok company as it became known in the 60's is the official supplier to the Russian military and had its roots as a supplier of military hardware other than watches in wartime - even in the 60's they were producing millions of watches each year so quality was not the byword and indeed why there is an endless suppy coming out of Eastern Europe