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    Quote Originally Posted by OhDark30 View Post
    I’m enjoying the old ads - thanks Is!
    Here’s a great recent thread from the other place, with lots of PW wear/carry suggestions
    Have you thought of using that small pocket in jeans, or wearing a waistcoat? :-)

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    well not much in to jean either at the minute as use to use the little side pocket since I stop smoking it became free from my zippo ..but now round the house it's joggers and out now just casual trousers so no pockets ...

    did see one really cool one on esty but well expensive double strap thing will try and find the pic at some point ..

    oh and yeah love old watch poster and adverts too
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

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    TYPES OF POCKET WATCH


    Although pocket watches are essentially a single design, there are a few different aesthetic elements that greatly affect the way the pocket watch is used and displayed. These elements can determine the value and age of the watch, as well as being ultimately more or less attractive to each owner and potential buyer.


    Collectors tend to stick with one particular design over all others, or one well-known brand that specialised in a certain design. Pocket watches are often classified by the type of face display they are endowed with - there are five main types: open-face, half hunter, full hunter, double hunter and the half double hunter.


    OPEN FACE POCKET WATCH
    The open face pocket watch is self-explanatory; its design has no cover and the time can be read without having to remove any obstructions. Open face pocket watches are quite common nowadays, but were not at all popular in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, particularly as the porcelain faces used could be damaged easily and needed the additional protection of a cover. This is why the full hunter was developed: a pocket watch complete with a cover that opened and closed on a hinge.


    FULL HUNTER POCKET WATCH
    The full hunter pocket watch design often featured an ornately engraved outer casing with initials or even a picture or photograph displayed on the inner. Timekeeping, however, could become quite a hassle when the cover had to be opened every time the owner wanted to check the time, and this is why the half hunter was invented.


    HALF HUNTER POCKET WATCH
    The half hunter pocket watch featured a cover that included a crystal or hole that allowed the owner to see the hands of the watch without having to open it - making reading the time much easier than a full hunter case.


    DOUBLE HUNTER POCKET WATCH
    The double hunter pocket watch has many of the same features as the Full Hunter - with the front face of the pocket watch covered with a protective lid - but the difference with a double hunter case is that there is a lid which opens on the back of the pocket watch too. This is designed so that the mechanical movements of the pocket watch can be viewed. It also makes the pocket watch easy to stand on its own so that the time can easily be read. On double hunter pocket watches, the ''12'' would be located just below the stem of the pocket watch; which would mean when the watch is sitting on its own, the time would be facing the correct way.


    DOUBLE HALF HUNTER POCKET WATCH
    The double half hunter pocket watch is a combination of the double hunter and the half hunter pocket watches. It has all the features of a double hunter pocket watch, which includes having a front and back hinged lid which fully opens, but the difference is that it has a window on the front lid of the pocket watch, which then enables you to view the dial of the pocket watch whilst having the luxury of a protective covering to prevent the dial from being damaged. With these pocket watches you can also have the option of having a pocket watch with viewable mechanical movements from the front or the back of the pocket watch, which gives it a beautiful antique feel to it.

    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

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    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by is that my watch View Post
    well the cad thing was I think on watch freaks some member had created one then he uploaded it to some site and then made and sent it to him for like $50 if my memory is correct . I would not know where to start to do this

    I have been toying with the idea of getting the larges size old shrapnel guards that use to be on the bay all the time and trying to modify that to do the same job as those watch case covers ..but not sure it would work so just thinking for now on that one
    Can you measure and draft? Could work on and off with you to get a few test CAD models done. 3d print service in plastic is cheap. Do a few tests until it fits, then print in bronze or plated brass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimman View Post
    Can you measure and draft? Could work on and off with you to get a few test CAD models done. 3d print service in plastic is cheap. Do a few tests until it fits, then print in bronze or plated brass.
    I will deffo kept in mind if I work anything out think for the short term going to go for one of the leathers once I decide who to go with

    but yes for the long term might be worth a look but would they sell in any great quantity I wonder because in theory any large watch case could be modified if you look at the number two version on my open post
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

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  7. #26
    In my opinion, pocket watches belong in pockets. I specialize in American made RR Grade pocket watches - culminating in the Hamilton 992B (see avatar).
    I have one (1) converted Zenith, and while it's a nice novelty it doesn't really work.

    These watches are really too big for most wrists (certainly for mine) - but there are lots of smaller pocket watches. Some are of very high quality - the requirements
    for a "RR Grade" watch include some features that don't really affect quality (such as the requirement to be "lever set").

    Rumor has it (I have no personal knowledge) that pocket watch movements do not adapt particularly well to wrist duty.

    My pocket watch wearing days are winding down, since I don't regularly go into an office. But, when I do wear them, I find that the 5th pocket on Levi's works perfectly, and pants with "coin pockets" inside the right front pocket can also be useful. It's true - they don't work for active use (say, while driving) - but that's why dashboards have clocks! Once you get used to having a watch on a chain, easily accessible in a right-hand pocket, it becomes very natural.

    It's probably correct that the pocket watch will not stage a comeback - but at this time I don't see any particular need to "repurpose" vintage pocket watches. I find it more satisfying to use them as intended.

    Interesting observation - for pocket watches, the only transparent backs were for sales demo cases. And yet, the movements are typically MUCH more detailed and finished than the typical wristwatch. Which is odd, because it's easy to look at the back of a pocket watch - but rather difficult to see the movement on a wristwatch when worn.

    With early pocket watches, it was necessary to open the back in order to wind the watch. I suspect this is part of the reason that movements became so elaboarately decorated - even when they became "keyless". Lever set and key set watches also required opening the front.

    Finally - note that pocket watch purchases (at least, RR Grade) typically separated the purchase of the movement from the case. The consumer would marry the two at the jewelry store. Some collectors now care ONLY about the movements (plus dial and hands) and others care principally about the cases (usually for hunters - which offer more opportunity for elaborate engraving). Ball was perhaps the first American pocket watch company to insist on factory cases - as a result, finding the correct case for a Ball watch is more important that for other brands. For other brands, there are MANY possible "period correct" cases that are acceptable, making it much easier to assemble a "period correct" watch by combining elements of two watches (movement, dial, hands from one - case from another).

    That reminds me - time to change my "watches of the week" - I've been traveling too much lately (and about to start again on Wednesday). So...check WRUW later today...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennethRSloan View Post
    In my opinion, pocket watches belong in pockets. I specialize in American made RR Grade pocket watches - culminating in the Hamilton 992B (see avatar).
    I have one (1) converted Zenith, and while it's a nice novelty it doesn't really work.

    These watches are really too big for most wrists (certainly for mine) - but there are lots of smaller pocket watches. Some are of very high quality - the requirements.
    I don't really hold with that some of the early yes as you say key-work movement would not work or full or part hunters but the standard open face was what start the wrist watch craze off look at them in terms off military use and from some of my poster it was well know and used for movement made for pocket watches was used in wrist watches through both the world wars so size is not an issue either as panerai use the same size as pocket watches as a 3602 is very similar movement as they use in them ..

    so think if more modern then think not an issue am working on one now along the lines of a pan case using a 3602 movement and a 1970s dial and hands and looks right ... for me and there are no end to conversions done

    so all depends on the pocket watch in question.... no one rule for all
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    also think theirs a big different in RR grade american pieces then English and the like even thou some of my posters show elgin and watham and the like ... smiths pocket watches and watches are well associated with the military ..

    as they need a better way to keep a tab on time then a pocket watch wrist watches was easier to use when in action simple as that to lift a sleeve takes no effort when taking out a pocket watch is time consuming and some times difficult depending on condition ... so can't see why pocket watches would not be good for wrist watches don't make sense
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    here it is

    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    My paternal grandfather's watch:



    He was one of those people who would wear the whole setup at the drop of a hat, even in his nineties either with an aged suit or in a stiffly robust and slightly aromatic grey Cordings gilet. My father had no interest in it whatsoever and passed it straight on to me in the complete expectation I'd sell it. He recently discovered I hadn't and was surprisingly pleased.

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