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    **** Whats our take on this ****

    well over in the Russian forum we have a thread on watches called **** lets play a game - new or vintage or franked **** so lets try something similar here.

    Basically what it is, if you wondering about a watch authenticity or age or if it's had work or anything like that you post pics here for people to say what they think of it . curiously sake .or if thinking of buying or just as a learning curve.

    I will start with this one





    I have certain doubts I wonder before saying them what others think and will they see the same issues ?

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    also am I right this one is missing something





    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

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    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    My problem is the I play only with American PWs. All my references are in those. II would pull out one book or another. And make a determination. Hardest part is the dial. Original or not?

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    My knowledge and experience of pocket watches is limited at best; but even to my untrained eye the top one is certainly wrong.... I can't think anyone would go to the trouble of decorating a dial just to have it partially obscured by that 'bumpy inner ring' (is it a bezel, a rehaut, or neither ? ). Plus it looks like the sub-dial hand has been chopped to clear the aforementioned 'bumpy ring'...

    ... and yes, I think you're right about the second one: Something is not right. I don't think it belongs in that case.

    I can't comment on the movements.
    Some people have opinions - The rest of us have taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crownpuller View Post
    My knowledge and experience of pocket watches is limited at best; but even to my untrained eye the top one is certainly wrong.... I can't think anyone would go to the trouble of decorating a dial just to have it partially obscured by that 'bumpy inner ring' (is it a bezel, a rehaut, or neither ? ). Plus it looks like the sub-dial hand has been chopped to clear the aforementioned 'bumpy ring'...

    ... and yes, I think you're right about the second one: Something is not right. I don't think it belongs in that case.

    I can't comment on the movements.
    yes the gold hands the detail to the movement the dial patterns all say it's a re-case to my eye, and that shall we call it a bezel that is something strange ..the movement looks all there so could work.

    the other one think the case might be alright I was looking at more the movement is it my eyes or has the setting cog sheared off at the point of where you would put the key in to it to wind it up if you look at the cog for charging the barrel it has the raised bit in the middle that the key slides into on the other their is nothing there so in theory you could wind it up but not set the hands ?
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan R View Post
    My problem is the I play only with American PWs. All my references are in those. II would pull out one book or another. And make a determination. Hardest part is the dial. Original or not?

    Dan
    yes reckon kosher dial to movement but not to case maybe on the first the second looks french so yeah possible right ?
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    lets look at one i bought hoping to fix but the hair spring is shot I thought and still do that it is kosher ..but as I said else where am on a learning curve so we can discuss this one two maybe
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    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    their pants should be on fire with this hmmm belong to the granddad pass down to the dad yeah must have been in the last 20 mins

    cheap modern quartz trying to be flog as vintage

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-fob-...oAAOSwKPNdNLUG
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    whats are take on this no movement shot provide shame that






    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

    https://emgwatches.com/
    http://www.instagram.com/iyonk_strap/
    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

    ЖИЗНЬ НЕ ОСТАНАВЛИВАЕТСЯ, ПРОХОДИТ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by is that my watch View Post
    their pants should be on fire with this hmmm belong to the granddad pass down to the dad yeah must have been in the last 20 mins

    cheap modern quartz trying to be flog as vintage

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-fob-...oAAOSwKPNdNLUG
    That was pretty funny, seeing the quartz movement in it. I am hoping she just did not know. The case part with the train also looks modern.

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