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    An interesting piece

    This is not mine. An acquaintance of mine just picked this up at a "junk shop" where he lives
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    I can't make out the name but it's manufactured in Canton, Ohio. Any guesses on make and age?
    It's not running, he thinks it's been overwound.
    This fellow lives in the midwest, so there are quite a few pocket watches for sale in antique/used stores in his area. I believe he has about 20 pieces, now.
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    Hampden (Diadem) ?

    Click the movement pic (5th pic along) in this link https://www.icollector.com/Hampden-D...tch_i23937534#


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    Age: 1903

    Put the serial number into this: https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/brands/diadem

    I guessed at 1883068 ??


    I'm no expert at all on pocket watches , I used my googlefu instead just from the info in the original picture given
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatme99 View Post
    This is not mine. An acquaintance of mine just picked this up at a "junk shop" where he lives
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    I can't make out the name but it's manufactured in Canton, Ohio. Any guesses on make and age?
    It's not running, he thinks it's been overwound.
    This fellow lives in the midwest, so there are quite a few pocket watches for sale in antique/used stores in his area. I believe he has about 20 pieces, now.
    looks around 1916 say size 12 probably a Dueber-Hampden Watch Company 305 maybe with out looking in to it dans your man for pw

    when doing pocket watch I.D it good to have case / dial/ movement pics as with out them could be any mixed case jobbie .. can tell you with the extra detail to the plates it would have been the higher end of the range to go to the trouble of details .. look under the hair spring for more makes marks .
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriously View Post
    I'm no expert at all on pocket watches , I used my googlefu instead just from the info in the original picture given
    Likewise..... I saw an 'M' as the first letter so went hunting for that: Found this

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    "Molly Stark was used as a trade name used on pocket watch movements manufacturered by Hampden.

    The Hampden Watch Co. manufactured watches in Springfield, Massachesetts and Canton, Ohio from approximately 1877 to 1927."

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    Holy cow, guys! Thanks!
    That's the movement, Crown, I haven't seen the case.
    Sorry for the pic, the serial # is actually
    2188302
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    Quote Originally Posted by crownpuller View Post
    Likewise..... I saw an 'M' as the first letter so went hunting for that: Found this

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    "Molly Stark was used as a trade name used on pocket watch movements manufacturered by Hampden.

    The Hampden Watch Co. manufactured watches in Springfield, Massachesetts and Canton, Ohio from approximately 1877 to 1927."

    well sort of it a bit confusing with the dates as it was not hamdens till 1888 it was mozart first then Dueber which then bought hamdens but then became Dueber-Hampden Watch Company I do believe they even built a factory in Russia in the 30's I think
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatme99 View Post
    the serial # is actually
    2188302

    Grade: Molly Stark


    Manufacturer: Hampden
    Manufacturer Location: Canton, Ohio
    Movement Serial Number: 2188302
    Grade: Molly Stark
    Model: 4
    Estimated Production Year: 1906
    Size: 3/0s
    Jewels: 7j
    Movement Configuration: Hunting
    Movement Finish: Nickel
    Movement Setting: Lever
    Plate: Bridge Plate
    Regulator: Plain
    Adjusted: No
    Railroad Grade: No
    Quality Rating:
    Dial Feet Locations: 13, 38.6, 54.4
    Movement Markings: Molly Stark
    Canton, O.
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    It's a 1906. Thanks everyone! I've passed on all the info and websites, he's very happy.
    I'm trying to get him to come over here, we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatme99 View Post
    It's a 1906. Thanks everyone! I've passed on all the info and websites, he's very happy.
    I'm trying to get him to come over here, we'll see.
    be interesting to see what else he has picked up mainly american at a guess ? but bet theirs a fair few English knocking around over their too .. might be worth looking at the connection between molly stark and Elizabeth Page as one and the same
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

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    http://wristwatchreview.co.uk/

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