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    **** Interpreting Soviet/Russian movement and case codes ****

    well this one sometime confuse me and still does so I have manage to combine some of the info I have read saw and thought helpful into this simple well hope simple explanation of the coding system.


    If I have missed some thing or made a mistake let me know and can ammend it.

    So where to begin well I will try and break it up in to parts and with a pic's or chart might help to as I said some of the information is gleamed from all over the net so thank you the anonymous op's





    Coding System is a Remnant of the Old USSR:


    The movement codes used by Russian watch manufacturers were originally developed as a standardized system of codes set up in the USSR in the 1960s.


    New codes are added as needed, but not all new, modern codes conform to the original standard.


    Deciphering the Code


    The movement code describes the size and functions of the movement.


    The first two digits of the code are the diameter of the movement in millimeters. The last two digits are a code that describes the features of the movement. (Sometimes the second part of the code has more than two digits.)


    To completely decipher the code you will need a chart to match the two-digit code to a description of its functions. For that we refer you to the following chart at Russian Times. Russian Times also has good historical and technical information that is useful for collectors of vintage Russian watches.


    Example: Let's look at the Raketa 2459. The "24" indicates that the movement is 24 millimeters in diameter. The "59" means that it is a quartz movement with a sweep second hand and a center moon phase function (this information comes from the chart).


    The code is not unique to any particular manufacturer and watches from different brands may have the same code. This would indicate that the two movements are the same size and have the same functions. It does not mean that they are identical.






    Interpreting Soviet/Russian movement and case codes


    Russian movement/case codes come in a ABCDE/FGHIJKH format.


    AB = movement diametre in mm


    CD, CDE = Soviet movement specification
    see table at bottom of page


    FGH = case variation


    I = case material
    Examples below from Vostok


    0: stainless steel and other metals without plating
    1: chrome plated
    2: gold plated
    3: gilded (at least 5 microns)
    4: colour coated
    5: synthetic, polymer, rubber
    9: glass, crystal, ceramics, marble


    JKH = Hand set


    As a consequence of this system there's a 2416 Slava, 2416 Vostok & a 2416 Poljot movement that bear no similarity to each other, except that they match the 2416 specification (automatic, central second hand, shock protected & date plus all are 24mm in diametre).


    On top of which there's 2 different Poljot 2616 movements that bare no relation to each other, except that they match the Soviet 2616 specification ( automatic, central second hand, shock protected & date plus both are 26mm in diametre). One's the 30 jewel job that's not uncommonly seen in Sekondas from 30 odd years ago, while the other's the the 23 jewel movement that one found in Buran Automats up until very recently.


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    As you can see above, from the orientation of the balance cock to the crown (on the left in both images above), these movements have nothing in common except their size & outward functionality.




    Soviet, Russian and Belorussian Movement Codes Table


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    - New Russian movements with new designations are still being created since the end of the USSR, and have been included in this table on the assumption that a central standard still exists.


    - Not all post-Soviet movement codes conform to the standard e.g. Vostok 2433 is not a chronograph.


    well now has that all become clear or is it worse then when we began yes me to some I understood I think I do and the rest will be fun finding out


    As always Ismy
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    Makers of Russian Watches
    The following list is made up to show, first the name signed on the dial in the nearest English equivalent letters to Cyrillic CAPITALS, then the nearest English letters to Cyrillic script, and where an English equivalent or translation,


    Agat (Arat) (Azam) (# stopwatches only AFAIK)
    Albatross (Audampoc) (~ used by Vostok)
    Almaz (Anmaz) (Aamaz)
    Amphibian (~ used by Vostok)
    Antarktida (Ahtapknaa) (Anctarctica)
    Aurora (Abpopa)
    Buran (Bypah) (~ used by various makers)
    BPEMR (Bpemr) (Time) (# Export item from Slava)
    Cardi (Cardi-Vostok) (Raketa Cardi) (Poljot Cardi) * see note below
    Cardinal
    Chaika (Yanka)
    Cmapm (Start) {# may be also East German or Eastern bloc}
    Cornavin {# some may have Swiss Movements}
    Cosmos (Kocmoc)
    Crystal (Kpntcann) (Kpucmailil)
    Druschba (Apyxga)
    Electronika (Enektpohnka) {# Digital Electronic Watches}
    Era (Epa) (3pa)
    Generalskie (Generalskijie){~ used by Vostok}
    Garo
    Iskra (Nckpa) (Spark)
    Jantar (Rhtapg) (Amber)
    Junost (Iohoctg) (Youngster) {# small watches boys sizes?)
    K-43
    Kama
    Kirovski (Kirowskie) (Kupobckue)
    Kolos (Konoc)
    Kometa (Comet)
    Leningrad (Aennipaa)
    Luch (Ray) (Ayz) (Beam)
    Lux (Aiokc)
    Mayak (Majak) (Mark)
    Mechta (Meyta)
    Miesto
    Mir (Mnp)
    Moljna (Monhnr) (Lightning){# Pocket watches some Wristwatches}
    Moskowskijie (Mockobckne) (Moscovite)
    Moskva (Moskwa) (Moscow)
    Neva (Niva) (Heba)
    NII (Hnn)
    Okeah (Okean) (Ocean) (Okapah)
    Olympic
    Orbita (Opgnta)
    Orion
    Peterhof (Neteprob) (Netetop)
    Petrodvorez (Netpoabopeu)
    Pobeda (Nobeaa) (Tiodeda) (Victory)
    Poljot (Nonet) (Flight)
    Raduga (Paayra) (Rainbow)
    Raketa (Paketa) (Rocket)
    Rekord (Pekopa)
    Rodina (Poanha)
    Rubin (Pybnh)
    Russia (Poccnr)
    Salyut (Caniot) (Catrom)
    Sarja {see Zaria)
    Saturn (Catyph)
    Sekonda {# Newer models may use movements sourced from Japan or China}
    Severni Polus (North Pole)
    Signal (Cnrhan) (Cuemar)
    Slatoustowski ( Bnatoyctobcknn) {# known for the huge Divers watch, 280 grams weight)
    Slava (Cnaba) (Craba) (Glory)
    Sportnivnie (Cnoptnbhbie) (Sports)
    Sputnik (Cnythnk) (Satellite)
    Stolichnyje (Ctonnuhbie)
    Strela (Ctpena) (Ctpeaa) (Arrow) {# used as a name by Poljot}
    Sturmanski (Shturmanskie) (Wtypmahckne){# used as a name by Vostok}
    Sura (Cypa)
    Svet (Sviet) (Cbet) (Clef)
    Ural (Ypan) (Ypad)
    Uran (Ypah) (Uranus)
    Viesna (Vesna) (Becha)
    Volga (Bonha) (Wave)
    Vympel (Wimpiel) (B6imnea)
    Vostok (Wostock) (Boctok)
    Zarja (Zaria) (3apr) (Dawn)
    Zim (3NM)
    Zodiac
    Zvezda (Zvesda) (3be3aa) (Star)


    Additionally
    Minerva ? (possibly?)
    Orient ? (V slight possibility some models may use movements sourced from Russia)


    Names on Dials (not necessarily maker's names)
    used on Poljot Sturmanski and others


    BBC BMo
    Buran (Bypah)
    Capitan (used on Vostok and Cardi-Vostok)
    Strahlen-Gesichert
    Sturmanskie


    * Cardi is a "blanket" name used with various movements from different makers, and mainly intended for the export market.A good example of "badge engineering" to meet a particular marketplace.
    one night I dreamed I was locked in my fathers watch, with Ptolemy and twenty one ruby stars mounted on spheres and the primum mobile coiled and gleaming to the end of space and the notched spheres eating each other's rinds to the last tooth of time and the case closed - John Ciardi ...

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