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Aug 17, 2015, 02:45 PM
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Aug 17, 2015, 06:06 PM
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The problem is, probably no one here has seen any in real life, which makes it really hard to gauge the quality. I'd be more likely to view the artistic ones as potentially high end, simply because I'm sure there are plenty of talented artisans who can do custom hand painted dials and similar things. But the movements are a different question--I'm not sure whether the same level of skill would be present as would be for the folks who assemble high end movements for, say, Patek Philippe.
I will say I was (and still am) very impressed with the fit and finish of my "other place" tourbillon, for the price. But until we can drop the "for the price" language, it seems to me tough to elevate the Chinese products to high end, except from a pure artistic point of view. Although I'm sure many people who buy watches like that are totally disinterested in the finishing or accuracy (within reason) of the movement, whether they're buying a Maison Celadon or a Piaget...
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Aug 17, 2015, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
mlcor
The problem is, probably no one here has seen any in real life, which makes it really hard to gauge the quality. I'd be more likely to view the artistic ones as potentially high end, simply because I'm sure there are plenty of talented artisans who can do custom hand painted dials and similar things. But the movements are a different question--I'm not sure whether the same level of skill would be present as would be for the folks who assemble high end movements for, say, Patek Philippe.
I will say I was (and still am) very impressed with the fit and finish of my "other place" tourbillon, for the price. But until we can drop the "for the price" language, it seems to me tough to elevate the Chinese products to high end, except from a pure artistic point of view. Although I'm sure many people who buy watches like that are totally disinterested in the finishing or accuracy (within reason) of the movement, whether they're buying a Maison Celadon or a Piaget...
That is kinda what I was thinking. A lot of pictures I have looked at of the high end Beijing watches (one of those posted is a $55k watch) the movement finishing just doesn't quite look as nice as the Swiss equivalents. I have to be honest though on the artistic ones I struggle to see a difference between the two in pictures as far as dials. It be interesting to see them side by side.
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Aug 17, 2015, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
93EXCivic
That is kinda what I was thinking. A lot of pictures I have looked at of the high end Beijing watches (one of those posted is a $55k watch) the movement finishing just doesn't quite look as nice as the Swiss equivalents. I have to be honest though on the artistic ones I struggle to see a difference between the two in pictures as far as dials. It be interesting to see them side by side.
It would. Of course, it's kind of academic, as the Celadon watches are most likely all made to order--there won't be a showroom where you could see some examples, even in China, I bet.
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Aug 18, 2015, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
mlcor
It would. Of course, it's kind of academic, as the Celadon watches are most likely all made to order--there won't be a showroom where you could see some examples, even in China, I bet.
As I own a Celadon Premier, I can say it's a nicely finished watch. But, as beautiful as the movement is, it is not a hand finished work of art as you would find in a PP or VC.
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Aug 23, 2015, 05:03 PM
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Aug 23, 2015, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
Strela167
Admirable artistry, but again, it's all about the dial and elaborate decoration. I don't read or speak Mandarin, so I don't know anything about the movement other than it's obviously hand wound.
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Aug 23, 2015, 07:18 PM
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Can't really tell from the pics what movement it is.
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Aug 23, 2015, 07:26 PM
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Oh, it said SB18 but very decorated
Or at least the 3/4 plate
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Aug 25, 2015, 05:52 PM
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