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Aug 31, 2015, 01:38 AM
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Aug 31, 2015, 04:22 AM
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I could go with any larger dial, clear to read, good lume, no bezel, and the rest is extra. But really, to me it means A or B dial, and maybe a Glycine Airman or Poljot Aviator thrown in. The rest is marketing... at least, in my mind. Basically A or B dial, meaning this:
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or this:
Too many watches, not enough wrists.
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Aug 31, 2015, 06:33 AM
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That Zenith really seems o be pushing the limits of the definition of a pilots watch. One of the common themes of a pilots watch regardless of whether it has indices or numerals is the presence of a clear reference at 12 o'clock to allow quick orientation and reading of the time. Most pilots watches have a triangle at 12 or some variation thereof.
Highly visible markers is a necessity as well.
My opinion on the Zenith is that they didn't know what else to call it and since they apparently control the rights to put "pilot" on the dial, they marked it as such and dare anyone to question it.
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Aug 31, 2015, 07:11 AM
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Pretty sure over the years there has been a blurring between pilot and navigator too.
One to easily read at a glance, one to use to map out. Prefer the A , never gone for B myself. Too much clutter would not be a pilot but navigator imo.
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Aug 31, 2015, 08:03 AM
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What makes a Pilot Watch a Pilot Watch?
I'd go for a broad definition: watches that have been designed for/ have been issued to/ are used by pilots.
Legibility is key, as the German fliegers exemplify - good contrast, distinct 12, lume.
As we could be flying anything from Santos-Dumont's 14-bis to an Airbus A380, with fighters, helicopters and Cessnas in between, we might want to time different things:
Simple 3-handers: getting to briefings/ the pub on time. Recording flight time, timing navigation legs, fuel endurance (this is easier with a stopwatch/ timing bezel)
Hacking/ atomic time: starting displays/ dropping bombs together, keeping to airline schedule
Chronographs: timing nav legs and holds, engine rundown times
Timing bezels: good for marking events to count up or down from (takeoff time, min fuel)
Tachymeter/ telemeter: To get a direct readout of groundspeed (handy before GPS); tell how far away the guns/ lightning is (more a novelty now, tbh)
GMT hand/ bezel: useful if your airline/ military does everything in Zulu time, or you regularly travel between 2 timezones
24hr display: astronaut Scott Carpenter found it easier to read off time direct from a 24hr watch. Ymmv
Sliderules: student pilots learn to use circular sliderules to calculate unit conversions, bearings, fuel etc. Some later find it handy to have one in watch form. Also good for posing in the bar.
As you can see, all this on one watch would be unmanageable, so we pick'n'mix what works for us doing a particular task
Also, tough quartz and digital watches can combine a lot of functions in a manageable and readable package (with illumination too) - many (?most) pilots wear these.
Mine:
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Aug 31, 2015, 08:57 AM
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This is an interesting question. I would suggest high visability, good legibility, and an easily manipulated crown would be essential. But, I'm not a pilot. Also, a second time zone and some kind of chronograph could be useful I guess, along with some level of protection against magnetism.
Interstingly this is my only "aviator watch". It has these characteristics and more. It is highly waterproof, shockproof and being solar powered it shouldn't let you down unexpectedly.
However although the time is very legible and well lumed, I'm not sure how easy it would be to operate in gloves or if the additional information is that clear at a glance.
To me, it's the ideal watch for running and swimming etc though.
G-Shock: GW3000B-1A
Rolex: Submariner 14060M
Accurist: 1961 Shockmaster (Gold) & 1965 Shockmaster (Steel)
Omega: Speedmaster Professional 3570.50.00
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Aug 31, 2015, 09:17 AM
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easily manipulated crown would be essential.
This is all I was going to add - historically something that could he operated with gloves - a big onion crown with deep knurling for grip.
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Aug 31, 2015, 09:25 AM
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As has been mentioned, an easy-to-grip-with-gloves-on winding crown would be another feature. I cannot, for the life of me, recall which brand it was that brought out a vintage-styled pilot's watch that came with a spare, very extra-long strap. It was based on a wartime practice of pilots being able to strap the watch to their thigh so that they wouldn't have to take their hand away from the stick in order to check the time.
May have been the first reissue IWC Big Pilot from around 2001.
EDIT/ 5 mins later...Actually, scratch that. I just remembered that it was one of the Sales Reps who told me that this was sometimes done by pilots in WWII, but I don't think I ever saw an extra-extra-extra long strap.
Oh, wait a sec, yes I did, but it was on an Hermes Cape Cod. Not quite a pilot's watch.
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Aug 31, 2015, 09:39 AM
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As has been mentioned, an easy-to-grip-with-gloves-on winding crown would be another feature. I cannot, for the life of me, recall which brand it was that brought out a vintage-styled pilot's watch that came with a spare, very extra-long strap. It was based on a wartime practice of pilots being able to strap the watch to their thigh so that they wouldn't have to take their hand away from the stick in order to check the time.
May have been the first reissue IWC Big Pilot from around 2001.
EDIT/ 5 mins later...Actually, scratch that. I just remembered that it was one of the Sales Reps who told me that this was sometimes done by pilots in WWII, but I don't think I ever saw an extra-extra-extra long strap.
Oh, wait a sec, yes I did, but it was on an Hermes Cape Cod. Not quite a pilot's watch.
I think Omega did/do a speedy pro with an extra long strap to go over your space suit
/tangent
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Aug 31, 2015, 02:36 PM
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