Molnija Pocket Watch Question

[Goose24]

Hey, everyone.

New member here. I have a Molnija pocket watch that was gifted to me. I've done a little research on it but am having a tough time dating it. It seems to be a bit different from other models that I have seen. The hour and second hand are different colors. Could that mean that it was modified? Also, it has a CCCP logo under the 12. Anyone know anything about this version?

[is that my watch]

yeah the hour hands wrong it should look like the minute hand just smaller .

the cccp :

СССР (Союз Советских Социалистических Республик, SSSR (Sojuz Sovetskih Socialisticheskih Respublik) in Latin/Cyrillic script) is a Russian abbreviation for the Soviet Union or Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR).

age mid 80's but with the hand as it is that probably wrong you see the dial and hands get swapped around all the time ( I have done this when got two faulty ones and have built one good one out of them ) would not surprise me if the dial is tape on (not thats an issue when the stop using metal dials or coated metal dials and swapped to the plastic mid seventy's early 80's the feet tend to break off when the dials got brittle .

best way to date is to pop the back cover and take a pic to do this use the crown as a fulcrum and slide a thin blunt knife against the crown where it meets the case and pop the back away from the case if you are struggling then you ant doing it right should really take no effort if in the right place .

[is that my watch]

this is a fascinating read on all aspects of these movements was going to do some thing like it and was researching a few points when I found this :

http://linuxfocus.org/~guido/molnija-pocket-watch/

and well hell he did a way better job then I could so

[is that my watch]

try and get a back shot like this

[is that my watch]

some of my 3602 movement pw and some conversions I have done

[DJW GB]

Everything that ismy said . He knows a lot about these pocket watches.

Billy super duper

[is that my watch]

Everything that ismy said . He knows a lot about these pocket watches.

Billy super duper

thanks mate working on some right now need a couple of regulator and hair springs though as ones running face down but not up so the staffs broke as tried one off another one and runs fine so yeah the other rebuilt but hair springs not right so think that staffs gone to as to loose in the space wish could find a joblot of nos hair spring / regulator set be great if I could ..oh snag another lot of 3602 to work on this morning ....

always looking for broke ones on the bay

[Goose24]

Thanks for the information. I'll pop the back cover off and take a picture. Any sense of what this watch is worth with the modifications?

[is that my watch]

Thanks for the information. I'll pop the back cover off and take a picture. Any sense of what this watch is worth with the modifications?

not a lot it has a work horse of a movement and they get yanked out the case for conversion so you would think they would get in short supply to original condition would be a good price but not their yet..

I have sold them from £50 to £25 in full working good condition with full and original chains.. with this one the hand overall condition bow rubbed to brass not right chain (looks like a put together chain looks brass links then silver lobster claw poss link as well poss chain )so would be bought to use for parts or repair so if working guess ten to twenty quid might be worth trying the chain separate to the pw

[is that my watch]

was going to start a thread but this one can do so I bought a joblot a while back off one pic



so it arrived they all sorta started working but very quickly all started showing faults not that bother in away, paid forty quid all in thought some of the case / strap worth that plus use able as donor parts I thought and learn assembly /stripping etc etc.

so any way we had one with a nice dial the yellow one and a nice case so swapped in a modern well ish movement undated so 70's to what 2010 ? any way seems ok now this one .




so worked then on a movement marked 1967 ( a thinner movement as it turn out to the later ones ) got stem issue so might have to use as a donor if I get any more early ones as does run nice stem pull out even when tightly screwed but hold in with a pocket watch stem ( so put it in a pw case yeah great idea ..well I thought so anyway till we realise movement thickness is thinner so the stem hole does not line up
so needs to be in a thin case got one this one the original case .. but does not work in it ...



so at the moment i'm trying a 1950 movement in that same dial maybe, but ant put one on yet ( was trying to fix the stem issue on this one too) I think might try a diff one as if working in the case would rather spot a dial on then put hands on then remove it again . to screw a dial on.