The cars and bikes thread!

[geoffbot]

This would be an ideal summer commuter for me as I get free lecky at work, and I can afford a new one with a nice, unworn battery, unlike the few electric cars I can afford. Torquey AF - sounds like a wheelie monster.

[mlcor]

If this opens up to an opportunity I might be able to snag a z06 at a decent price to replace the F-Type. The vet coupe is far more usable day to day than the Jaguar.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/20/chevy-corvette-unsold-seven-months-supply/

Here is one in nearly the same color pallet as the F-type. I think I may still prefer the yellow or white.

Why is the Corvette more useable? Trunk space?


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[Samanator]

Why is the Corvette more useable? Trunk space?


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That and there is actually room to recline back the seat. More of my wife's issue than mine, but I would not mind at least a little area to recline back a few degrees. Part of why we miss the XKs. We like to day/weekend trip to Key West and the F-Type is nowhere as comfortable or as accommodating for our stuff as the XK8 and XKR are. The last gen of XK are now at the point that a preowned is out of the question. The past two times we've taken the truck instead of the F-type(to be fair one of those we had 4 people and a pile of dive gear), but really miss having the top down for the drive. Even my TT years ago allowed far more seat recline, but possibly less trunk space. The Vette seems like the only option to stay in a sports car and not have to go back to the cost of a Porsche for maintenance given we do not drive a lot of miles. Also, I seriously doubt I'd get a deal similar to what they sold me the 2009 Carrera GT4S Cab for in 2010.

[happyscrappyheropup]

I came across this looking for something else entirely. I seem to be more receptive to electric motorcycles than cars. I still don't see the current 200 mile standard or even 300 being enough for me to consider an electric car a real car. Now if I could recharge it in 15 minutes then I could live with 200-300 miles of range(not 2-4 hour charge times). On a bike about 100-130 range is normal. I really don't understand the weigh comment since it seems to be nearly identical to most current liter bikes (Yamaha z1 is 487 lbs wet weight). I just don't know about 140/lbs of torque instantaneously on a bike.

https://gearpatrol.com/2019/02/25/th...-the-market/#1

That bike would be a riot with that much torque. My 17 year old bike makes over 100 at the tire from 4000-8000rpm and it will loft the tire just about anywhere

[happyscrappyheropup]

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[Raza]

This would be an ideal summer commuter for me as I get free lecky at work, and I can afford a new one with a nice, unworn battery, unlike the few electric cars I can afford. Torquey AF - sounds like a wheelie monster.

I'm really not on board with all those batteries. Just yesterday I got news of a family friend's son being burned beyond recognition when his Tesla caught fire and then crashed (reports are fuzzy on the sequence, but the my mom was told that the police said the car caught fire before the impact), leaving no chance at a rescue. The car reignited for hours after the crash, which is typical for battery fires. You just can't put them out. Sure, gasoline is plenty flammable, but Fisker, for example, basically went out of business because they couldn't keep their cars from catching fire.

[Samanator]

That bike would be a riot with that much torque. My 17 year old bike makes over 100 at the tire from 4000-8000rpm and it will loft the tire just about anywhere

Yes that is why I'd be a bit concerned. Having 140 from 1rpm up would be a bit much to control. They do talk of traction control which I assume would be tunable. Without it, I can see someone flipping it over not thinking it would hit like that.

[happyscrappyheropup]

Yes that is why I'd be a bit concerned. Having 140 from 1rpm up would be a bit much to control. They do talk of traction control which I assume would be tunable. Without it, I can see someone flipping it over not thinking it would hit like that.

You can flip most modern (and old) bikes from a dig, I don't see much difference.

Is there a "clutch"? When we learned to drag race, to be fast you had to twist the grip to the stop as soon as the lights dropped. We use the clutch to control wheelspin/wheelies. Easy on a slow bike, a little harder when we got more powerful bikes

[Samanator]

I'm really not on board with all those batteries. Just yesterday I got news of a family friend's son being burned beyond recognition when his Tesla caught fire and then crashed (reports are fuzzy on the sequence, but the my mom was told that the police said the car caught fire before the impact), leaving no chance at a rescue. The car reignited for hours after the crash, which is typical for battery fires. You just can't put them out. Sure, gasoline is plenty flammable, but Fisker, for example, basically went out of business because they couldn't keep their cars from catching fire.

Was your friend around my area? I saw that in the news. Sorry to hear about this.

Musk talked about a swappable battery years ago but has never delivered upon it. This was primarily to solve the charging time issue (and battery life) but I could see it addressing the post-crash safety issues if they can separate the two(car and battery). Tesla uses lithium-ion batteries that are supposed to have some of the best construction for cell joining and electrical busses. Others have used both lead-acid and NiMH (Toyota has used both and has not had the same issues...they do not Lithium-ion). I think the other factor that may be at play here is the Tesla supercharger. Pushing charging too much can break things down to the point they explode. If you read the engineering analysis of the Model 3 they tore down you find there are many glaring mistakes in Teslas that would never happen at a seasoned auto company. The cars all have some glaring flaws in build quality. They did feel though the batteries were constructed very well, so this takes me back to the charging. Also when a friend took me for a ride in a dual motor S in the ludicrous mode they heat the batteries for a long period before(like 50 minutes) you can use it. This did not seem to make sense, but I've never really dealt with lithium-ion batteries. Most other electric vehicles concentrate on cooling the batteries. So there may be several things conspiring here.

[happyscrappyheropup]

I'm really not on board with all those batteries. Just yesterday I got news of a family friend's son being burned beyond recognition when his Tesla caught fire and then crashed (reports are fuzzy on the sequence, but the my mom was told that the police said the car caught fire before the impact), leaving no chance at a rescue. The car reignited for hours after the crash, which is typical for battery fires. You just can't put them out. Sure, gasoline is plenty flammable, but Fisker, for example, basically went out of business because they couldn't keep their cars from catching fire.

That's horrible news. Sorry, Raza.