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Mar 17, 2023, 11:08 PM
#4431
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Happy St. Patrick's Day, stay safe all!
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Mar 18, 2023, 08:05 PM
#4432
Stay lucky you mean!
Is that a... Guinness?
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Mar 18, 2023, 09:31 PM
#4433
Savagely Average
Originally Posted by
geoffbot
Stay lucky you mean!
Is that a... Guinness?
That it was
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Apr 8, 2023, 05:10 PM
#4434
Am I being a stick in the mud for not wanting to support a site that is funded by and promotes online gambling that is aimed at an underage audience?
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Apr 8, 2023, 05:33 PM
#4435
Originally Posted by
Raza
Am I being a stick in the mud for not wanting to support a site that is funded by and promotes online gambling that is aimed at an underage audience?
Which site
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Apr 8, 2023, 06:14 PM
#4436
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Originally Posted by
Raza
Am I being a stick in the mud for not wanting to support a site that is funded by and promotes online gambling that is aimed at an underage audience?
Echoing Geoff, which site?
Generally speaking though, I would say no. I am a dad and try to protect my kids from such "advertising"
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Apr 8, 2023, 07:56 PM
#4437
Originally Posted by
geoffbot
Which site
Originally Posted by
Mediocre
Echoing Geoff, which site?
Generally speaking though, I would say no. I am a dad and try to protect my kids from such "advertising"
Kick.com. I’m pretty active on Twitch, including moderating for a Twitch Partner. Over the past few weeks, a competitor has arisen called Kick, which was started by a Twitch streamer who I believe was mad about Twitch banning gambling streams from its platform. Kick has no such restrictions, of course, and is funded by Stake.com, an online cryptocurrency (and you know how I feel about that) gambling site.
I’m not against gambling, I’m a card player myself, but the video gamification of it and putting it on a site where kids go to watch video games bothers me. Online gambling is already predatory. Treating it the same way people treat Fortnite is not great in my eyes.
I have a lot of other, more practical concerns about the site, but that’s my main ethical one. Maybe I’m being oversensitive, but I don’t know.
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Apr 9, 2023, 04:00 AM
#4438
Savagely Average
Originally Posted by
Raza
Kick.com. I’m pretty active on Twitch, including moderating for a Twitch Partner. Over the past few weeks, a competitor has arisen called Kick, which was started by a Twitch streamer who I believe was mad about Twitch banning gambling streams from its platform. Kick has no such restrictions, of course, and is funded by Stake.com, an online cryptocurrency (and you know how I feel about that) gambling site.
I’m not against gambling, I’m a card player myself, but the video gamification of it and putting it on a site where kids go to watch video games bothers me. Online gambling is already predatory. Treating it the same way people treat Fortnite is not great in my eyes.
I have a lot of other, more practical concerns about the site, but that’s my main ethical one. Maybe I’m being oversensitive, but I don’t know.
If my kids were on a site like that and I noticed it promoting gambling, it would immediately become off limits
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Apr 9, 2023, 06:50 AM
#4439
Gambling under 18 is illegal. I think games with pay addons themselves are worse even than gambling as its legal. Some kids have run up thousands in bills on their parents credit cards playing fortnight, which nags them to buy add ons every 5 minutes.
Was playing with a friend's kid the other day and she was saying how they update the game every week with outfits for players that are trending like a celeb is in the news, they upload a paid skin/outfit for you to buy and everyoje wants it of course. The game is a sensory overload.
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Apr 9, 2023, 02:45 PM
#4440
Originally Posted by
geoffbot
Gambling under 18 is illegal. I think games with pay addons themselves are worse even than gambling as its legal. Some kids have run up thousands in bills on their parents credit cards playing fortnight, which nags them to buy add ons every 5 minutes.
Was playing with a friend's kid the other day and she was saying how they update the game every week with outfits for players that are trending like a celeb is in the news, they upload a paid skin/outfit for you to buy and everyoje wants it of course. The game is a sensory overload.
I agree. There’s a reason that supply drops/loot boxes are dead in the industry, thanks to the EU taking Electronic Arts to court over it. The EA lawyer got up in court and said that paid loot boxes are not gambling, but they’re a “surprise mechanic” and everyone in the legal and video game community have been laughing at him ever since.
Since that case, the industry has moved on to the “freemium” model, in which you have in-game currencies bought with real money that can either direct buy items (usually that rotate, so as to create false scarcity) or buy and work through a battle pass. That’s what Fortnite does, which is why that game has been so successful and essentially created the model that American Triple A studios are chasing right now with games like Call of Duty Warzone.
And then when you add real gambling to sites that also host video games, it gets murky real fast for kids.
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